Thursday, July 31, 2014

untranslatable


This poem.

Looking at 'winding streets' for the latter, DARGU although KLAJI is closer in meaning; for the former 'curve' KRUVI & 'spiral' (my preference) SARLU. So: SARLU DARGU...

The dictionary suggests SNOCANCI ('slow-vanish') for 'fade' although i think the effect is not visible change so much as a contrast to a previous state; hence 'more weak' ZMADU RUBLE which has several forms (ZMA MAU and RUB BLE). Then--RUBZMA LUNRA to continue the pattern of double assonance.

Finally, 'door' can only be VORME, and the form of 'you' i want is DONPRE:

SARLU DARGU .! RUBZMA LUNRA .I DONPRE VORME
which has the succinctness of the original, & at least a slight sense of the wordplay...

Wednesday, March 19, 2014

quotes from Algazel


(via)

8-bit Roundabout

"I have poked into every dark recess, I have made an assault on every problem, I have plunged into every abyss..." --Deliverance from Error

"But if their metaphysical theories had been as cogent and definite as their arithmetical knowledge is, they would not have differed among themselves on metaphysical questions, as they do not differ on the arithmetical." --introduction to Incoherence of the Incoherent

"It were no marvel if the students of the realities underlying the terminology were puzzled by the multiplicity of these terms, and imagined a corresponding multiplicity of ideas. But he to whom the realities beneath the terms are disclosed makes the ideas primary and the terms secondary: while inferior minds take the opposite course." --The Science of Symbolism (from Niche of Lights)

"But if any one of them stands up in a state of genuine ecstasy all the rest should stand up with him, and if any one's turban fall off the others should also lay their turbans down." --Alchemy of Happiness, V.

Monday, February 17, 2014

The Throne Verse

2:255 Allah! There is no God save Him, the Alive, the Eternal. Neither slumber nor sleep overtaketh Him. Unto Him belongeth whatsoever is in the heavens and whatsoever is inn the earth. Who is he that intercedeth with Him save by His leave? He knoweth that which is in front of them and that which is behind them, while they encompass nothing of this knowledge save what He will. His throne includes the heavens and the earth, and He is never weary of preserving them. He is the Sublime, the Tremendous.

2.256 Allah! Ne ekzistas alia Dio ol Li, la Vivanta, la Sendependa kaj Cxiosubtenanta; nek dormobezono nek dormo venkas Lin. Kio estas en la cxielo kaj sur la tero, cxio apartenas al Li. Kiu povas propeti cxe Li sen Lia permeso? Li scias, kio estas antaw kaj malantaw la homoj, kaj ili nenion komprenas el Lia scio ol tion, kion Li volas. Lia regno enhavas la cxielojn kaj la teron kaj la regardo de ambaw ne lacigas Lin. Li estas la Eminenta, la Grandega.

REKI'O REMUMU TU'E
.IA CEVNI JO MUSYCEI .I JMIVE JE CIMNI .I NAKU SIPNO JE TOLMORJI .I TERDI JE TSANI PONSE .I LO REMNA KO'AGOI LE MUSYCEI .IO KA'E TAVLA .IJO RI CURMI LENU LA'EDI'U .I CRANE JE TRIXE DJUNO .I GU'O REMNA JIMPE GI MUSYCEI JDICE .I LE TERDI .E LE TSANI CU SABJI LE STIZU KO'A .I RI NA TATPI LEZU'O KURJI .I BANCU RODA .I BARDA TRAJI TU'U

Tuesday, February 11, 2014

2 from Japanese Death Poems


    "Frost on a summer day:
all I leave behind is water
    that has washed my brush."

--Shutei

       two versions:

CISYDEI BISLI
.I DA'AMEI STALI FA
LEMI BRULUMJAU

(DA'AMEI for 'only' is somewhat idiosyncratic; more regularly--)

CISYDEI BISLI
STALI FA PADA NO'U
LEMI BRULUMJAU

"Life is an ever-rolling wheel
And every day is the right one.
He who recites poems at his death
Adds frost to snow."

--Mumon Gensen

LE XRUTI BA'O
CIMNI .I MOKCA PRANE
.I FANMO PEMCI
SE BACRU DA POI DUNDA
LE BISLI LE DUJYJAU

Literally: 'The returner has been infinite. Moment-perfect! End-poem-uttered-by one who gives ice to frozen water.'

Tuesday, December 17, 2013

a bogus candor

"Whenever I hear of culture, I reach for the safety catch of my Browning." (Not Goebbels--LA GRBLZ.--, after all, but what else might he have said worth trying to Lojbanize?)

--This because of an Okrand podcast-interview in which the possibility of translating G. (or Shelley) into Lojban, is mooted.

'hear' TIRNA and perhaps 'word' VALSI, but not 'culture' KULNU, rather something more like 'art' LARCU plus 'tradition' SE CILRE
then MI JGARI LEMI XARCI which can be simplified to XARCI JGARI...
...LARCU SE CILRE VALSI KE XARCI BO JGARI CFAGAU...

better,
DA POI NU TAVLA FI LE LARCU SE CILRE SETI'U CE'U ZO'U DA RINKA LENU MI XARCI JGARI

or, more LOBYKAI,
LARCU SE CILRE TE TAVLA KE MIBYPRE XARCYJGARI RINKA

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"If Winter comes, can Spring be far behind?" (Shelley, LA CELIS.)

LE DUNRA CABNA CU PURCI LE VENSA

but i think a better way is:
GE'I (forethought connector-question) DUNRA FANMO GI VENSA CFARI

--& the rhythm of this sounds best:
DUNRA BO FANMO JE'IKE VENSA CFARI

Saturday, October 12, 2013

Palindrome

A palindrome (FATMI'U LERPOI) in the Quran: "They all float, each in an orbit" (Yasin 36.40). Pickthall: It is not for the sun to overtake the moon, nor doth the night outstrip the day. They float each in an orbit.

In Esperanto: Ne konvenas al la suno atingi la lunon, nek al nokto antawri al la tago. Cxiu el ili ambaw sxvebas en sia orbito.

In Lojban: (CIXAKI'OVONOMO'O) KA'ENAI KAVBU FA LE SOLRI LE LUNRA
      .IJE LE NICTE LE DONRI KA'ENAI LIDNE
      .I LE RE FULTA CU MUVDU CO DJINYTARMI